If it is restarted, then I think there will be very little premium at all.

However in the current market, I am not sure any G4's really have a premium at all, unlike the camels, so we are all best to hang on to them or let them go to a fellow enthusiast if we have had enough - my thoughts are I will never get anything significant back on mine so it is currently in the 'keep it forever' category.

Given the obvious age advantage of the G4 vehicles and the significantly more attractive colour scheme as well as the vehicle model range it is obvious that the G4 vehicles will continue to attract attention and admiration wherever they go!

G4 LIVES ON  ...... :P:P:P

Kim ;)

Yes they are noticeable, and they always get admiring/weird/aggressive reaction from other users, and often cause conversations that may never have otherwise happened, however I fear that the (current) perceived value of camel's may not transfer for while to our fleet.

The 09 vehicles will be of less interest to the market place in regards to the history of the vehicle - but being diesel, will still have a demand..

Lets hope Land Rover will in the future return to the 'spirit of adventure' although the format may have to change.

I would only sell mine if I can get another....

Regards,

at  least that is good at the moment, will enjoy my D3 as much as I can!!

But agree with the comment that the club should continue to promote the legacy and interest in the cars/ event.

Mark

06 G4 FFRR, V8 90

Being a hobbyist dealer, I asked my wife just how she deals with 'collectables' to add a bit of science into it, she said she makes an educated guess on the following attributes:

1. Iconic design typifying a time or period;
2. Rarity or potential rarity;
3. Condition;
4. Practical value, but this is very much up to the individual;
5. Pedigree;
6. Time;

CFB on disco3.co.uk

But then he has single handedly tries to keep LR production lines moving, he is on about his 5th D3 and has had Puma Defenders and 2 FL2's in the last couple of years ........(running joke on the other forum)

however my two pennyworth is that LR might sub the 09 fleet to LRE, however that would not be very smart as LRE exist to prove to ordinary purchasers that their vehicle is as capable as the silverfleet and it would be rather daunting for the "average" punter to find a tricked up all bells and whistles exped vehicle sitting there waiting to be mastered in a free half day slot,(LRE instructors please dont flame me i do know of the other good work you do)

the question of would they command a premium, actully no they wouldnt

1. no history (03 & 06 and the camel's for a long number of events)

2. as mark says the add on stuff is available ex stock, paint? maybe

3. only the recce vehicles have done something and would not engineering be looking at the FL2 to see how its stood up. but whats one recce in comparison to the 03 & 06 recce vehicles

4. you wouldnt buy one just because its diesel(as in 2 above) as i am sure that LR wont sell too cheaply after all most only have delivery milage and not like the 03's with 3-4K on the clocks.

the way forward in my opinion is for LR TO RELEASE ALL THE 03 STOCK AND LET THE CLUB PROMOTE THE g4 GHALLENGE CONCEPT

regards

martin

You are right, if my RRS had been a diesel I would still have it - At least I still see it everyday but sadly do not own it - and if the 09 vehicles come out at a sensible price, ie I'm expecting them to be discounted on a standard spec and colour car, then I for one will try to buy one.

Why do I think they will be discounted - The land rover main dealers were initially very uninterested in what came out so they bid very low on the 2003/2006 vehicles. Suddenly a market developed & they all jumped in, but many had difficulty selling them as it was often the specialists who were better placed to sell for the higher prices. - This time the event has been scrapped they never took part in an event so the genuine event factor is gone, the additional equipment makes very little difference except to a sad geek like me, they will have a novelty factor and that sadly is probably all, and finally the 4x4 market has dropped off a cliff and I cannot see many dealers wanting to take a punt on what might become a vehicle that is very difficult to sell - They are happy for us to lose money on cars but they are not going to bid very high on cars that in a normal spec lose £2k a month. - they will be looking to sell within 12 weeks, so will buy accordingly, they are in business to make a profit and as many have had their fingers burnt recently I cannot see them offering good money. - At least this is what I'm hoping for !

If we all talk the market down I might get my G4 TDV8.;)

The only fly in the ointment is my wife drives my car all the time and I'm driving her mini, even cheaper to run, and I'm not sure she will be so keen on another tango.

Regards

Whilst LR might be counting on the fact that the 'dedicated followers' will be keen to collect, the rest of the market is flat.

Add in no service history etc or any event history and the seem even less desireable, unless your are a enthusiast.

I understand they have well over 100 cars to deal with, will be interesting to see what happens,  I can't see market value being high at present, its not like LR isn't already in a stock pile situation.

And, model refresh is due late 2009 including new engines.......

           Despite being new to this, I'll throw in my opinion. I'm not so sure that a vehicle with no challenge history will appeal to true enthusiasts. This will no doubt reduce it's potential as a collectable vehicle. It should certainly be classed as a limited edition. I guess the '09 vehicles would be of more interest to the wealthy, outdoors type who would see it as a fashion accessory more than anything else. In that respect I don't think that engine type or model will make any difference. However, it would be good to see them on the road even if only to promote the G4 challenge and (with a few stickers) make the public aware of the connection with the IRC&RC societies.

   As for the colour scheme (no offence to the person(s) responsible for decorating the vehicles) but those side stripes just make me think Motorway Maintenance :D

Vaqueiro.