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Rear Window Protector

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By BlackPerth - 24 Jul 2008

Down Under we have a company in Melbourne selling the "Obies Rear Window Protector" - very handy on rock strewn roads if you are towing. Its very common for rocks to bounce off trailer and straight through the rear window.  This perspex cover sits on top of the original wondow with velcro tape and hey presto - a safe off road experience!

http://www.obiesoutback.com.au/

By martin bisby - 24 Jul 2008

hi

it would appear that the rear wiper arm is removed? or will this refit over the perspex?

nice swing away for the spare wheel did any dealer tell you about removing the spare from underneath affecting the safety of the vehicle

regards

martin

By jimcarr - 24 Jul 2008

Martin,

The doing away with the spare wheel from under neath the vehicle will not affect the vehicle handling (if that's what people are wanning about) because like one of my RRS's the wheel is moved because of the 95 ltr fuel tank that lives there instead. (now you can complain about the cost of petrol) The rear screen protectors are great if towing, I have used on myself, there unimaginable dust in the car if you broke a window, but dust gets between the two screens so you cant see through it, but if your towing you are not looking through your rear window any way!

Cheers

By martin bisby - 24 Jul 2008

thanks jim

re the removal of spare wheel it has been suggested that it compromises safety as there is nothing there, not owning a D3 i havnt taken much notice of the validity of such statements, but if guy salmon dealerships can refuse to have in their workshops any car that has been LPG converted because of the risk, even if its non engine related service, who knows what is supposed to be believed.

i guess i dont do enough towing of big white sheds, as i do like to know what is behind (or supposed to be ) me, i do know of the wind deflection and the vortexs associated with open rear tailgates and broken rear windows, again i dont travel in the kind of conditions that the screen is designed for, i suspect it is a worthwhile feature

regards

martin

By jimcarr - 24 Jul 2008

Hi Martin,

Yes, dust and vortex! I have learnt one or two things over the years that I had not appreciated till you experience them. Disco I for Australia market (where the roads are flour fine dust) they had a read door mod, a strip of sponge rubber that went between the tail gate and the body, it basicly filled up the gap where the dust used to sit, so when you opened the rear door, a great averlanch of dust shot into your car. I have learnt never to have the fresh air vents on "recirculation" in dusty conditions - it efectivly stops the inside of the car from being presurised and the dust comes in every where. I have taped up the exit air vents in the rear quarters to try to keep the car as pressurised as possible - that keeps out the dust better. In OZ and Africa the dust is microscopic and gets every where (can chaff a bit!)

Cheers

By jimcarr - 24 Jul 2008

Why dose that do that? When you post more than one picture it streches the whole page side ways! Doow!
By camel_landy - 24 Jul 2008

martin bisby (7/24/2008)
thanks jim



re the removal of spare wheel it has been suggested that it compromises safety as there is nothing there, not owning a D3 i havnt taken much notice of the validity of such statements, but if guy salmon dealerships can refuse to have in their workshops any car that has been LPG converted because of the risk, even if its non engine related service, who knows what is supposed to be believed.





Now IIRC, some of the basic D3s get supplied without a spare... In fact, some police forces run without spares too.



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By camel_landy - 24 Jul 2008

jimcarr (7/24/2008)
Hi Martin,



Yes, dust and vortex! I have learnt one or two things over the years that I had not appreciated till you experience them. Disco I for Australia market (where the roads are flour fine dust) they had a read door mod, a strip of sponge rubber that went between the tail gate and the body, it basicly filled up the gap where the dust used to sit, so when you opened the rear door, a great averlanch of dust shot into your car. I have learnt never to have the fresh air vents on "recirculation" in dusty conditions - it efectivly stops the inside of the car from being presurised and the dust comes in every where. I have taped up the exit air vents in the rear quarters to try to keep the car as pressurised as possible - that keeps out the dust better. In OZ and Africa the dust is microscopic and gets every where (can chaff a bit!)





Yep... That dust gets EVERYWHERE!!!!



TBH - The dust is soooo fine, I've given up trying to stop it getting in. No matter what you do, you'll always end up with a fine layer of dust over everything.



Instead, I just make sure that my kit is kept in dust proof containers...



HTH



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By camel_landy - 24 Jul 2008

BlackPerth (7/24/2008)
Down Under we have a company in Melbourne selling the "Obies Rear Window Protector" - very handy on rock strewn roads if you are towing. Its very common for rocks to bounce off trailer and straight through the rear window.




Yeah... Or in my case, I had one bounce off a trailer that was coming the other way and trashed MY windscreen (on the main drag up to Cape York)!!



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By adesg4 - 24 Jul 2008

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but if guy salmon dealerships can refuse to have in their workshops any car that has been LPG converted because of the risk, even if its non engine related service, who knows what is supposed to be believed.

Hi Martin

I think the risk in this case is the LPG conversion itself and the possibility of gas escapes rather than the fact the spare wheel has been removed.

Personally i cannot see why removing the spare wheel would affect the vehicle as if you get a puncture you would remove the spare anyway and chuck the punctured wheel in the back (if empty).

I lIke the idea of the rear window protector as I have suffered this in the past in the UK whilst towing and not actually realised what had broken the rear window.

Adrian

By Erasmus - 24 Jul 2008

ISTR reading/hearing that the spare wheel position has something to do with the rear impact zone. IIRC LR say in the handbook that if you do use the spare then you MUST put the deflated one back in the under car mount. Not having a D3 :crying: I don't know for sure tho.



Cheers,
By martin bisby - 25 Jul 2008

Erasmus (7/24/2008)
ISTR reading/hearing that the spare wheel position has something to do with the rear impact zone. IIRC LR say in the handbook that if you do use the spare then you MUST put the deflated one back in the under car mount. Not having a D3 :crying: I don't know for sure tho.

Cheers,

thanks mark thats what i had heard, i must admit i couldnt see why it would as adrian points out if you use the spare :ermm: and through the puncture in the rear.

as for the LPG that was just to say how pedantic GS are with issues, not related to the spare etc.

interesting about the fine dust, i presume that the slightest bit of moisture added to it and what an effective cutting compound you have:w00t: i know how it chaffs, having had to tread the the open wounds on any skin fold;) thats been caused by just talculm powder and sweat

regards

martin

By camel_landy - 25 Jul 2008

martin bisby (7/25/2008)
interesting about the fine dust, i presume that the slightest bit of moisture added to it and what an effective cutting compound you have:w00t:




Oh yes... and you don't even need moisture. I was surprised at the speed I got through rear brake pads in my 110 on sand & gravel vs a sealed road.



I figured that the front wheels kick up the dust which in turn smothers the rears. The next time you brake, you grind it down.



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By jimcarr - 25 Jul 2008

Hi Camel landy,

The rear brake thing is aggravated if you fit after market wheels, ie, ones with a greater offset - the rear disc shealds don't fit the wheels so well and let more dust/grit onto the discs. I have also noticed that the rear tyres get a lot more chipping on the tred due to the gravel kicked up from the front wheels I suppose.

Cheers

By camel_landy - 25 Jul 2008

jimcarr (7/25/2008)
The rear brake thing is aggravated if you fit after market wheels, ie, ones with a greater offset - the rear disc shealds don't fit the wheels so well and let more dust/grit onto the discs.




It's the same with the standard rims... The shields only stop the big lumps getting in.



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By BlackPerth - 27 Jul 2008

Gents, very common Down Under to fit a LR Tank ( a number of companies build them - mine is through ARB and its a Long Range Automotive - 115 litres giving me 200 litres of Diesel over all. 

The wiper does fit back on but is NOT recommended as it can damage the perspex; best to leave it off until you get back from the Outback.

Dust in the Red Centre (Northern Territory) is really bad but Disco kept 99% of it out.