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Blairlinn
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posted 10 Years Ago
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Any information would be greatly appreciated. I recently bought a G4 Disco 3 from club members Matt and Lottie and I'm trying to get the winch up and running again (it hadn't been reconnected after engine change). I can't find any interior isolation switch. Where would it be situated and if it's not there which one should I be looking to get. Do any members have a spare I could purchase. Still buzzing about the car!
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Gazdiver
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posted 10 Years Ago
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have you found the solonoid/relay under the battery ?
Wires from batt down to that then it disapears off under the batt tray to the winch
Gary
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Blairlinn
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posted 10 Years Ago
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Haven't got that far. Friend that's going to help said there should be a switch inside the car.
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Gazdiver
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posted 10 Years Ago
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there aint no switch in the car !
Unless they had it fitted as after market add on (which i doubt)
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Gazdiver
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PS...maybe that friend is not best placed to help if they have not come accross one of these b4 ...Where r u located there maybe a member close that could assist
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Emon
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Winches rust if not used, which is normally the case with these D3s. There is no switch on the 08 D3. A spur off the battery goes straight to the 2 solenoids behind the bumper and just below/front of the radiator/oilcooler. I am not sure how the 06 D3s are wired. To determine where the issue is, follow these steps:
Is there a heavy duty red cable going from the battery straight down towards the bottom of the radiator? if not then you do not have power, so need to start with the basics and find a fellow member as Gaz has suggested. If yes, then go to step 2.
Assuming your winch controller is working, do you hear a click coming from the solenoids when you try to wind it in or out? If not, then either the solenoids are burnt out (unlikely for little used 08 D3s) or the cables are disconnected there. So you will need to strip the front of the car to get to the solenoids. If there is a click then go to step 3.
Using a meter check that there is power coming through to the terminals on the wnch when you click to engage. The 3 at the top are +ve with the bottom terminal (under the motor end of the winch) -ve. If no +ve reading at all and the solenoids click, then either the wire is disconnected at the solenoids or the motor needs refurbishing, the latter being the most likely cause. Disconnect the battery, takeout the winch and send to a servicing agent.
You can contact Gareth at Arbil for further advice, details copied from an old email below. Note that my winch was in such a bad condition inside that most of the components needed replacing at about £400. The service cost indicated below is for relube and gasket change only.
Winch Service £45.00 ex.VAT – excluding parts., Typical lead-time – 7-14 days.
Gareth Williams
Sales & Technical Manager
Arbil 4x4 / Automotive
Tel : +44 (0)845 600 4556
Fax : +44 (0)1384 898645
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gareth.williams@arbil.co.uk
Good luck.
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Emon
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Emon
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Some pics to help you strip the front of the car to get to the solenoids:
After the grill and the lights have been removed, you will need to remove the bumper which is tricky as the wheel arches need removing to expose a single screw that holds the end of the bumper to the side panel! This is shown in the middle of the next pic:
Then it will look like this: The solenoids can be accessed just in front of the oilcooler behind the bunch of wires. Good opportunity to inspect the body, clean thoroughly and then apply some dry grease to all nuts and bolts to stop them rusting.
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Emon
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Blairlinn
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Thanks for all the advice. It's a shame that it wasn't connected back up when the engine was replaced - seems to be a much more in depth job than I originally thought. Cheers
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Farmer Chalk
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Do you have the original remote control or is it one you have obtained subsequent to purchase?
When I bought mine the remote was missing. However the replacement is wired differently so I couldn't get my winch to work. I needed to get the plug for it re wired.
This now works but I do now have a separate isolation switch under my front grill blades which isolates the whole thing?
Good luck!
Farmer Chalk...
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DurtyDisco
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From very recent experience as my winch solenoid pack needed to be replaced & I added wireless winch control.
The power supply from the battery to the winch is isolated by a safety solenoid beneath the main battery on the right hand side of the car as pointed out by GazDiver (when viewing from the front of the car)
The wiring in the plug of the wander lead activates this safety solenoid to provide power to the winch solenoids. The winch will ONLY operate with the wander lead plugged in, AND the engine running. This is also the case when I run the wireless set up.This might present you with some odd readings on a meter as it only works under power.....
You don't need to take the whole front of the car apart to access the winch solenoids at the front as you can either access them from beneath the car once the under body armour is removed, or you can remove the grill, winch and winch tray to get at them, though you do have to remove the front guard. As you can see from the pics I only took the winch tray and front guard off. Everything else remained in place.
Its not as daunting a task as you might think, but it does take time, if you don't feel confident best get a pro to do it, it find a local member who can help.
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